On 6th of January 2008, we will celebrate our first get together party with buffet..........
Mr. Vijay would be in charge for all our cultural/learning events, if you are interested, just contact Vijay (G5, Block-A) right away. Please encourage your kids to participate on all activities this would certainly help your kids to contribute the similar activities in their schools as well.
We are planning to have some stalls, people who is really interested in displaying their Arts/home made products/painting/sarees/cosmetics/foods/chats/Mehandi/tattoos please register with Mrs. Aslam (202 Block-A) – Use this forums to bring your talents & also advertise/sell your products within our society. This is optional; we would arrange this based upon the registrations.
For more info please contact our treasurer & secretary
Lets get together.......
Today an SB A/C was opened in our associations name with Indian Overseas Bank, Vignan Nagar Branch.
Baswaraj has paid by cash Rs 21370{Rs. 9677 surplus of maintainance and Rs 11693(as half of the cauvery water bill of Rs. 23385 as on 31/08/2007)}. The present bill is of Rs. 36131 as on 15/11/07 would be paid on monday. The residents who have arrears(of maintainance) are requested to pay the same ASAP. Any enquires related to accounts can be requested from the undersigned.
Yours Truly
Mehtab Aslam
A-202
Treasurer
Meeting Invitation
Meeting is scheduled on 16/12/2007 by 12 O'clock. All office bearers & executive members are requested to participate.
Thanks,
Ms. Mehtab Aslam
akrama by sakrama stayed
Court on wednesday issued a stay order against sakrama and extended deadline till march 31 2008. Please read the below article.
http://www.mid-day.com/news/bangalore/article?_EXT_5_articleId=818126&_EXT_5_groupId=14
As I suggested during the association meeting, we made a narrow escape by not going for regularisation. Above article also has comments from regretted applicants.
Thanks for the bangalore residents association who filed the case. We will have to now closely watch the modifications and guidelines that will be made by BBMP in sakrama.
MOM - 02/12/2007
Arrears payments are going to be collected in the first phase and the deadline would be announced by our Secretary & Treasurer through subsequent meeting (or) Notice board.
2) Responsibility Handover to Executive team
a. Accounts handed over to Treasurer.
b. Responsibility handed over to Secretary – submitted all required files, papers and MOMs, MOA draft copy, General body circulars and so on..
3) Car parking issues (only for dissatisfied residents)
Conveyed clearly that this concern is still an individual concern, people have to directly approach our builder and sort it out. Please find below the list of dissatisfied people, also the deadline for collecting this list is 09/12/2007. You can approach our secretary within the deadline if you have this concern.
1. Vijay, G5-A
2. Krishnakumar, G6-A
3. Devan Thaker, 105-A
4. N.V.John, 106-A
5. Kishore, 206-A
6. Varadaraj Narayanaswamy, G7-A
7. Sachin, 102-B
8. Praveen Murthy, 106-B
9. Unni Shankar, G6-B
10. Ranganadh, 306-B
11. MuthuKrishnan, 305-B
4) Electricity Name Transfer - Process
Mr. Mohan Nambiar collected information about a person who dealt with our nearby apartments for 800 bucks. We handed over the letter from Mr. Mohan Nambiar to our Secretary.
Secretary would initiate this process with the concern person.
5) When do we have a family get-together - photo session & introduction session?
Date finalized today, we are going have our get together and photo introduction session on 06/01/2008 evening. Our budget, program and the time would be finalized shortly by our association (secretary & Treasure)
6) Finalizing our monthly Maintenance money
Mr.Raghavan (104-A), our executive member explained about this point clearly, but as a final point we have arrived a conclusion that “we are not going to change anything with the time being existing setup – Rs.700/-“
7) Initiate Maintenance activities
Our Executive team would initiate this process from now on. Mr.Basvaraj is collecting our maintanenance money this month (December) to settle our last month's due. But all activities are handed over to us. We will have to take care of all our activities from this month (December) onwards.
From 1st of January 2008, we are going to initiate the maintanance collection process.
Meanwhile, this month our executive team would concentrate on other activities such as association/arrear fund collection, legal, Cauvery water, insurance, our name board and so on..
8) Kickoff Cauvery water supply
Not for the time being was the decision we made in our meeting. But
Unfortunately in the evening our water issues have started, so we have arranged a water tanker today. So now we will have to think on this point and derive a solution immediately.
9) Never ending issue – Legal
Time being we are not going to focus on Sakrama 2007, because there is a judgment which is going to happen on 4th of December, 2007, but at the same time our evaluation process would still continue concurrently by our legal team.
We would get an update about our injunction order issue by Monday (03/12/2007) from our lawyer, Please keep an eye on it.
10) Mobile & landline for us (optional)
Mr.Raghavan (104-A), our executive member suggested an idea about this, but the decision is yet to arrive. Secretary/Treasurer would announce if there is any?
11) Variety Program for New Year eve (optional)
No decision taken on this point through our association But, still if people are willing to have a count down party – Dutch system would follow by the individuals.
Meeting on Sunday (02/12/2007)
We will meet this Sunday morning by 11 am, It is very important meeting, please checkout our agenda is as follows and the duration would be around 2 hours, please plan accordingly.
1) Accounts till date
a. Arrears payments should be discussed (Defaulters)
b. Adjustment for regular payers (Regular maintenance payers)
2) Responsibility Handover to Executive team
a. Accounts handover to Treasurer
b. Responsibility handover to Secretary (& joint Sects)
3) Car parking issues (only for dissatisfied residents)
4) Electricity Name Transfer
a. How to approach?
5) When do we have a family get-together - photo session & introduction session?
6) Finalizing our monthly Maintenance money
a. How much money in hand?
b. Is our present maintenance money sufficient?
7) Initiate Maintenance activities
a. How to kick off our maintenance activities?
b. Do we need any further employees?
8) Kickoff Cauvery water supply
a. Shall we initiate Cauvery water tanker supply?
9) Never ending issue – Legal
a. What are we doing till date towards regularization?
b. Are there any updates from our lawyer & valuer?
10) Mobile & landline for us (optional)
11) Variety Program for New Year eve (optional)
Electricity Bill transfer
Shall we go for collectively submit Electricity bill tranfers towards owener name.
Today Morning I discussed this with basavraj , He said that If we are interested he can call concern person to our apartment and later we can decide price for each applicaiton with him.
Govindarao. G5 Block B
B/B connection
Hi,
I am looking for a new Broadband connection. My previous B/B service provider touchtel [airtel] informed that quota is over and he can't give new connections. Anybody has suggestions. Also am looking for new cable connection. Can anybody provide the contact number of cable TV operator in our apartment.
thanks in advance
karthik
Mobile SMS From 919880707541
Test message from mobile 9880707541. You can use this service anytime anywhere!
Yes, we aware of those cracks
We are discussing with Basvaraj and would fix it at the earliest.
Thanks,
Krishna G6-A
Block 'B' Cracks on the Terrace parapet wall
Hello Friends,
I had recently gone to the terrace (Block B) and i noticed that there are many cracks on the walls which needs to cemented as soon as possible. The cracks are noticeable in quite a number of places. We need to pressurize the builder to get this problem fixed. I also urge the members from Block A also to check their parapet walls as well.
Thanks
Shivakumar
G2-Block B
Email posting from my official email address
You can post messages from any email to our blog, this post is an example for the same, because it has sent from my official email account (outlook).
Just send email to "kethanaenclave.postmessage@blogger.com" thats it. Please note that your "Subject" would be the title of your post.
Why I brought this system is because most of our office network, gmail & blogger sites are blocked. Now we can do wonders beyond our blocks.
But still if people wants to view & post messages from our blog, they will have to register themselves with a gmail account. Hoz it?
No spamming please............but we can easily track messages who has sent it.
Thanks, Krishna, G6-A
New comment on Maintenance out sourcing
Friday, November 23, 2007 9:47:00 AM IST
I also agree with Krishna, I was under the impression that the monthly maintenace bill per flat will come around or below Rs.1000/- with this outsourced facility, customised to our need. But if they just want to eat up the money like that, it is better we manage it ourselves. I also would like to add the reason why I suggested it. I have seen some cases earlier, where like ours, an association was formed and some people within the association were nominated for the maintenance work. When it comes to day to day operations, it was a bit involving work with all the small - small complaints of plumbing , electricity, other repairs etc. Due to this there was a general frustration in the meetings from that group that "we are doing all the work and we also have to pay for it, while others just pay and do nothing." And also some shouting and blaming happening during the auditing on the way expenses being handled. And at the end, the work was outsourced. This may or may not happen with us. However, if we are going to handle the maintenance ourselves, then my suggestion will be to establish a process and guideline that every one has to follow.
Thanks
302-A
Comments on Maintenance out sourcing
Thursday, November 22, 2007 10:05:00 PM IST
I agree with you Krishna. I don't like giving the control of our premises to someone else. If we feel very difficult, we can think abt outsourcing in future.Paying the bills is not a great deal, it can be done online or near by EASY BILL outlets.For 24hrs power supply, we can get some technician and get the issue of manual changeover resolved, I think.For other activities/ services like, plumbing, electrical work, etc, we can have the contacts of one or two guys and have them posted on site and also display it at a easily accessible location (on display board or …).
Thanks
306-B (Ranganadh b. v)
Evaluation of Deviation
Hi,
I have a personal opinion on the point of contact thats the Govt. Official... Lets go safe and not reveal many of the details unless we are sure of him. I hope this has been ensured.
Regards,
Vijay,
G5-A
Lets Get-together
Hi,
Well Kethanites, to me family gathering seems to be a good idea for us to know each other and photos can be provided by individual family on their own wish. Also , many people may not be in station and to have their photo might be dfficult. But for sure our get together photos can be uploaded on the blog. Good to have a Poll and hope that we fix on a date to have a get together.
Regards,
Vijay
G5-A
Re:Re:Re:Building Deviation
We can’t use the private valuators for apartment and more over if the deviation percentage is more than 50%, they would not evaluate it seems. But, we have got one more contact from the government official panel member Mr. Seshadri, discussion is going on, would update you shortly – Keep an eye on our blog.
Thanks.
Our ‘Provisional Store' poll ended
Our ‘Provisional Store' poll ended, the collective decision would be - We are not going to give our provision for provisional store for rent. Which is for our re-creation club for our society.
Thanks
Re:Re:Maintenance out sourcing
Yesterday (21/11/2007), I had a meeting with Preethi security’s representatives, Mr.G.Somashekar- 92434 53040 & Mr.G.Manjunath - 92434 53041 at around 8 PM.
They are ready to take over all our maintenance activity, their approx charge per annum would be around 80,000/- (including 2 securities) but our monthly maintenance charges would be increased without any benefits for us, because
Their 1st question was how much you are charging for maintenance? When I explained about it, they stunned and told me that you should collect at-least collect 1200/-
They would provide security it seems, but their charges would be 4000/- per head.
They would take care of 24 hours power supply of course our securities would operate the change over mechanism it seems.
A manager from their side would come and work here it seems from 9 to 5 and would take care of our all our activities inclusive of monthly collection and also he would be our point contact for all activities like bills paying, electrical work, plumbing, carpentry, cleaning, motor operation and so on…
After listening for half an hour, I’m not fully convinced & felt that these systems would be ideal for 100+ flats. Also I personally felt that why should we pay unnecessary money for someone who come here and take the control of our premises.
More over if we increase our maintenance charge from 700 to 1200 we would be in a position to save 30 to 40 thousands easily per month with our existing system and we can utilize the fund for other activities as well.
This is my personal observation, Please comment/vote which is kept on the right side.
Thanks & Regards,
Krishna. G6/A
Re:Re:Building Deviation
Karthik, I guess we are jumping to conclusion, just hold on...
we keep contacting our valuator, he would get back to us with an hours time or two. Until then we keep our fingers crossed.
Krishna, G6/BlockA
Re:Maintenance out sourcing
Thanks for your information Rajesh.
Just now I spoke to Mr. Manjunath and got to know how they are managing “Anisha Grange”.
They are paying 1,67,000/- it seems for 120 flats, So the rough estimation for us would be around 80,000/- per annum, which includes all activities with 24 hours generator backup except AMC (Annual maintenance Cost) of Lifts, motors and so on...
I asked for quotation, also He would be visiting our premises today and give us the quotation, would update you once it is reached us.
Thanks
Krishna, G6/BlockA
Maintenance out sourcing
Hi,
I had a chat with my friend in Anisha Grange and got the details of the firm who is handling maintenance for them. Pls find the deatils below. I also had a conversation with one Somashekar and he told me that they can tailor their services according to our need. They can take up entire site operations or can manage specific operations that we need.
My suggestion is to have a have a discussion among ourselves and address on how do we want handle the maintenance task. If we decide to out source it, then we can get quotations and finalise on it.
Rajesh, 302 A
Maintenance firm details :
Preethi Security Systems
No. 6, 6th Cross, Basavanapura Main Road
Devasandra, K.R. PuramBangalore - 36
Phone: 25610862, 65419872
url: www.preethisecurity.com
Contact Person
Mr.G.Somashekar- 92434 53040
Mr.G.Manjunath - 92434 53041
Email info@preethisecurity.com
Re:Building Deviation
Actualy as per Sakrama scheme, violation is calculated on four fronts which I mentioned. Out of which square feet is important which you have mentioned, but we should also check violation if any in other fronts. Will it not be better to go for second opinion. Just to make sure we are in the right track. Do we have enough finance for the same. This is because all 3 bed room flat owners will necessarily pay regularisation fees and cross checking will always help. Muthu please comment...
thanks
karthik
Building Deviation
Hi All,
Just spoke to Sreeni (G7/B). Update is Valuer is visiting the premises 21st Nov'07.As per Sreeni the calculation is based on total sqft deviated X Market value per sqft . Currently the market value is close to Rs.1000 per sqft.
Once we know the exact sqft deviated ...we need to take a concious decision based on the total deviation how do we plan to go ahead .
Thanks,
Muthukrishnan.R
305/
Violation percentage
Hi legal team,
Did we now have rough idea of the violation percentage? It is very important to know the regularisation fees upfront because today in hindu paper I saw for a 60x40 site it could be minimum of 6.5 lakhs violation on all four [pertaining to floor area, setback, town planning and zoning regularisation] fronts. Before Dec 14, making arrangements for anything above 30,000 rupees is huge for me and I have to opt for loan.
thanks in advance
karthik
Minutes of Meeting: General Body Election
Minutes of Meeting: General Body Election
18/11/2007
Today we met at 11 am exactly and read out the key points of MOA – Memorandum of Association and as instruction given by “Society Act”, we formed our executive team as follows. We elected all positions collectively without polling. Since this is first time, we didn’t know each other, so all our active participants are elected as our office bearers.
Association Name: Kethana Enclave apartment owner’s association
President: Mr. M. Krishnakumar – G6, A-Block
Vice President: Mr. John. N.V – 106, A-Block
Secretary: Mr. Dhureen Babu – 103, B-Block
Joint Secretary1: Mr. Srini Balagopal – G7, B-Block
Joint Secretary2: Mr. Santhosh Viswanath – 308, A-Block
Joint Secretary3: Mr. Vijay – G5, A-Block
Joint Secretary4: Mr. Govinda Rao – G5, B-Block
Treasurer: Mrs. Mehtab Aslam-202, A-Block
Executive Members:
· Mr. Balaji Rajagopal – 107, A-Block
· Mr. Karthikeyan S - 101, A-Block
· Mr. Chandrasekar – G8, A-Block
· Mr. Sachin- 102, B-Block
· Mr. Sivakumar - G2, B-Block
· Mr. Muthukrishnan- 305, B-Block
· Mr. Nandhakumar – G4, B-Block
· Mr. Mr. Praveen – 106, B-Block
· Mr. Unni Shankar – G6,B-Block
· Mr. Dharmendra Shivaji – 105, B-Block
· Mr. Raghavan G.V – 104, A-Block
· Mr. Srinivasa Reddy – 206, B-Block
· Mr. Rajesh V.R – 302, A-Block
· Mr. Amarjit Dalai – 202, B-Block
· Mr. Sushil Shandilya – 303, B-Block
. Mr. Gireeshkumar G - 204, A-Block
. Mr. Narayanaswamy - G7,A-Block
FYI
Sreeni (G7/B) called up and informed me that our "Valuator" is on vacation & would be back in couple of days.
good
krishna,
good job of securing our site, so that we can have a free dialouge without any apprehension.
Dhureen
103-B
THE KARNATAKA SOCIETIES REGISTRATION ACT, 1960
Hi All,
I have uploaded THE_KARNATAKA_SOCIETIES_REGISTRATION_ACT.pdf to our google groups file section, please refer to that for our Society formation. This gives a clear cut idea on what and how it should be done. I will on vacation from tomorrow and will not be able to participate in our election.
You can also find other Acts, Ordinance and Notification in Yearwise @ http://dpal.kar.nic.in/acts&Ordinance.htm
Thanks
Gireesh (204/A)
Voters ID card - Update
An Update:
You can apply online - Use this link and apply now, Please note that our Assembly Constituency is:Varthur and our application will be processed by
ERO Name: The Assistant Commissioner,Banagalore North Sub-Division,Podium Block Visveswarayya TowerBangalore. Phone: 080-2286 9011
You can Track your application using this link. Once this is done, then goverment representative(s) will come to our residence for verification and getting our signature.
Note: If you going to submit it online, Please do not submit manually.
Voters Identity Card
Thanks for the information - Gireesh & Unni Shankar, yes it is a top priority for us.
How to process it?
Just download the application and fill-in (One application for one applicant) and attach a photo copy of any one of the following evidence.
1) Gas Connection (Should in the present address)
2) Phone bill (Only BSNL & Should in the present address)
3) Passport (Should in the present address)
4) Electricity bill (if it transferred on your name)
5) Bank statement/letter (Should in the present address)
And submit it with in 17th of this month.
Where to submit?
Government School Kagadasapura, located in “19th Cross”, not even half a kilometer from our premises.
How to reach the School?
Come our from our apartment and don’t take a right turn from MH Provisional store, go straight, a junction would come, just go up straight on the same road, just few steps you would find a government school on your right hand side.
Note:
Once done, we can easily track our application status through web, click here. Please take it as a top priority finish this process, its very important for us and also we can use this card as our ID proof.
Application for inclusion of name in electoral roll
Priority Priority Priority Priority Priority
Hi Krishna,
Pls refer the below link for electrol forms [Form 6[ in English, Pls hyper link this site to out blogspot.
http://www.ceokarnataka.kar.nic.in/Forms/Form6.pdf
I have a suggestion that if we can meet all together today evening at 10 PM to discuss and to fill up this forms and get it submitted on or before 17-11-2007, we have to push all of our resident to this, once we have around 100 votes in our apartment, the politicians will come to us for our votes and we get hooked up with them for getting our roads, water and general amenities like street light etc.
The above is my suggestion, we have to act together for our betterment.
Thanks & Regards
Unni Shankaar
9845576295
Electoral Rolls Revision Programme
Hi All,
Please use the following links to enroll yourself to 'Electoral Rolls'. You can register online or download the respective form.
Online registration
http://164.100.80.116/eci/Default.asp
Application Form
http://www.ceokarnataka.kar.nic.in/Forms/indexw.html
Home page
http://www.ceokarnataka.kar.nic.in
Thanks
Gireesh (204/A)
CIRCULAR
In our 6th meeting, we decided to have our “General body election” by this Sunday (18/11/2007) at 11 AM as per society act without getting it registered. We are going to elect a “President”, “Secretaries” and “Treasurers”. The Memorandum of Association (MOA) would be prepared upon completion.
This circular is an official invitation to participate in the election, and if you are unable to vote, you can authorize (proxy) any one of your family member (over 18 years) to vote on behalf of you.
In case, if you are unable to contribute, then the decision would be taken with “on hand vote count”. Our Security is bringing the acknowledgement sheet, Please sign it as a token of acceptance.
The candidates are yet to be decided; interested people can volunteer by sending a mail to Kethanaenclave@gmail.com (or) contact our co-ordination committee.
Note for tenants: Please provide your flat owner name and mobile number in the acknowledgement sheet; we would get in touch with them & get back to you.
Thanks & Regards,
Co-ordination Committee,
Kethana Enclave.
6th Meeting - MOM
As scheduled, we met at 10 PM and discussed our “Agenda” 1) Regularization 2) Forming an association.
Regularization:
Srini (BlockB) & Muthukrishnan (BlockB) has taken up the building valuation role. Srini is going to do this process officially and Muthukrishnan would do it privately. The tentative date of completion of this process would be this Saturday (17/11/2007). Upon completion, we would be in a position to calculate our percentage of violation. As per Sakrama ‘2007 article we are going to file our papers to BBMP through our association within 14th of December 2007.
Forming an association:
We are going to have our “General Body election” this Sunday by 11 AM. A break up circular would be sent out shortly along with “Acceptance Signature sheet”. Initially we are not going to register it; we are just electing a “President”, “Secretary” & a “Treasurer”, based upon their involvement, performance & acceptance we would take a decision collectively about registration/re-election & registration.
Note: Those who are unable to attend the meeting, please post your valuable inputs.
Thanks,
Some updates from Harsha Pride
Hello Kethanites,
I checked with one of my friends from Harsha Pride abt formation of association.Here are few issues I got to know from them:
For forming association they collected Rs 2500 per flat and their maintenance is to the tune of Rs. 2000 per month as they are facing water shortage.
They will be getting the Occupancy certificate but they are not sure if it is builder who would be giving or the state govt.
Regularization might be difficult for them as for one of the block the construction is still on progress.
They have a yahoo group with name harsha pride and more information can be gathered from there.
More information would be updated on the issues we discussed yesterday (12/11/07).
Ok Bye for now.
Vijay
G5-A
Attention!!!
Our Security guys would come with a CIRCULAR, Please co-operate.
We need money for forming an association and meet out our initial expenditure such as Lawyer fees, Architect fees, weekly cauvery water tanker cost and filing our papers for regularization of our building as well. So we need your intervention and co-opration.
Please note that our site would be blocked for unregistered users from now on...Only registered members can access it.
Thanks,
Administrator, Kethana Enclave Blog
Meeting Today
Yesterday we had a chat on various issues, and read out an article published in TOI on November 10th (Check the first flash message) - Its very important message for us. Please read out and get to know the insight of it. Based on this we discussed our action items and today we are going to meet at 10 PM. Its very important meeting Please do not miss out.
Thanks, Krishna G6/A
Meeting for today
Hi Kethanites,
can we meet up today to have discussion on the pressing issues and developments.
Dhureen
103-B
Hi Cauvery water team...
Let s know a convenient time we can meet to discuss and take forward the action items for Cauvery water availability to our flat
Update of Meeting with B V Reddy held on 06/11/2007
Hi Everybody,
Today B V Reddy was in town and he had organised a meeting and around 15 of us met him and was discussing on Building Regularisation issue with him. As usual intially he said that he cannot get the completion certificate nor apply for regularisation of deviation scheme which is kept open by the government of Karnataka till 15/12/2007. After having a long debate on the issue finally he started thinking with postivity and said that he will speak about the issue with the other neighbouring builders in Kaggadaspura and see how it can be taken forward and will revert back to us by 15/11/2007.
With respect to other issues like Leakage, Carpentry work, sealing of cable ducts, water logging in Staircase during rainy season will be taken care by Basavaraj and completed in due course.
We have also spoken to B V Reddy and said to him that he needs to take care of the Building Maintenance till this month-end.
Request all of you to list out the common problem with Basavaraj faced on your respective floors either directly or through the Maintenance Team representatives in each of the block and ensure that we address all the common problems and get the same solved to the possible extent.
One More Request to all the Residents of Kethana Enclave. Please go through the address book and find which neighbour has still not registered in the Blog and just speak to them and make them register so that all of them will get to know of whats happening in the Apartment and all common issues and can be addressed easily. Also incase your neighbour has not occupied the flat then request you to speak to Basavaraj and get their contact number so that we can reach them get them register in the Blog. This is really necessary because from next month onwards we need to take up the Building Maintenance Accounts and at that time if we do not have all the residents details in the address book it will be very difficult to reach them and get their share of the Maintenance dues on time.
Next Visit of B V Reddy is tentatively scheduled to be 15/11/2007.
So Lets join together see that we have all the Residents registered in the Blog and become united as "KETHANA FAMILY".
Information regarding forming of association and violations
Hi All,
Today I had a small chat with one of my colleague (Treasurer, ITTINA, white field), he has similar experience like us. We had a small talk on registration of association and building violations. Thought of sharing the same with you all
Association
Its not mandatory that the association has to be registered (As per societies act), We can still form an association under the society act without getting it registered and have a bank account in the name of the association and conduct other activities. What we require is the Memorandum of Association ("MOA") , And we need to have one 'meeting resolution' which clearly defines who is what, like names of the office bearers, MoM of the meetings and a resolution passed to authorize one person to open the a/c and manage the financials of the association. We also need to identify a CA (chartered a/c to file returns)
Building violations
First thing we need to do is to get the approved building plan from BDA (may cost around Rs 50-100) and find out all the violations against current construction, And file a case against the owner in consumer court because it's cheaper. And if we find some bigger violations and if required we can also demolish those like our pent houses (Because no one has bought the pent houses yet it's easy to remove those violations if the owner is not agreed to regularize) , if this brings down our % of violations to less than 50% , then we could use the 'Sakarma scheme to regularizes the rest.
Sakarma Handbook
http://www.bmponline.org/messages/SAKRAMA%5CSAKRAMA%5CSAKRAMA%5Cindex.html
Rules for regularisation of building violations notified
Wednesday May 23 2007 10:48 IST
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IE120070523002637
Gireesh Kumar (204/A)
Registration in our Site
Hi Krishna
Today I have managed to get into our site I would kindly request you to register my house no. G6/B Block, Kethana Enclave.
Pls do the needful and let me know anything else need from me.
Kind Regards
Unni Shankaar
G6/B-Block
Kethana Enclave
9845576295
5th Meeting - MOM
Minutes of our 5th Meeting:
Today (4/11/2007), we discussed about all our main concerns and then formed 4 different teams for addressing those concerns. These teams would intern contact each other & work independently alongside. Also we decided to collect Rs.1000/- each flat for our initial cash flow and safeguard. This fund would be utilized for our legal, association & development activities.
The Teams are as follows:
Legal Team:
1) Mr.Narayanaswamy G7/A
2) Mr.MuthuKrishnan 305/B
3) Mr.Amarjit 202/B
4) Mr.Dhureen Babu 103/B
5) Mr.Aslam 202/B
6) Mr.Unni Shankar G6/B
7) Mr.C.P.R.Nair G1/A
8) Mr.Alpesh 207/B
9) Mr.Karthik 101/A
10) Mr.Srini G7/B
11) Vijay Petley G5/A
Cauvery Water Team:
1) Mr.Chandrasekar G8/A
2) Mr.Santhosh 308/A
3) Mr.Siva 108/A
4) Mr.Rajesh 302/A
5) Mr.Nanada G4/B
6) Mr.Srijit 302/B
Maintenance Team:
1) Mr.John 106/A
2) Mr.Krishnakumar G6/A
3) Mr.Mohan 304/B
4) Mr.Ranganath 306/B
5) Mr.Kishore 206/A
6) Mr.Srivasa Reddy 206/B
7) Mrs.Aslam 202/A
8) Mr.Balaji 107/B
9) Vijay Petley G5/B
Teams would concentrate on their activities seriously and would update us periodically through meeting/by posting information on our blog. Car parking team is yet to identified, because the concern is only for few people and also which is not a priority item at this point of time. So we skipped it.
We took this decision collectively & haven’t scheduled our next meeting, but would meet at the earliest after getting confirmation from Legal team.
RE: Cauvery Water issue
As per schedule today (3/11/2007), we went to BWSSB department which is responsible for Cauvery water supply, located at Jeevan beema Nagar. Unfortunately we couldn’t meet the contact person Mr.Ramesh, but we met the other AE Mr. Murthy and got the number of Mr. Ramesh – 9845444051.
We discussed certain points with a “Work Inspector” Mr. Narashima Murthy & “Valve opener” Mr. Eswar Reddy & came to know that there is a problem with the pipeline from 19th Cross onwards. They scheduled for repair work by December it seems, so by December it would be fixed permanently.But, to confirm this we are going to call Mr. Ramesh on Monday. This is the update as of now on Cauvery issue.
Also we got to know about, how to book a Cauvery water tanker which carries 6000 liters of water. We have to pay 325/- in their Indra Nagar office and come and show the bill on our BWSSB office in Jeevan Bheema Nagar and for the first time we will have to direct the tanker by sitting along side with the him.
Cauvery Water issue
Today (3/11/2007) morning by 11 AM, we are going to meet Mr.Ramesh, Cauvery water department. Vijay, Basvaraj and Krishna are going, volunteers welcome!
About
Kethana Enclave is a new apartment located in Bangalore east - Kagadasapura. It has 60 flats which span across two blocks -Block A & B built by Kethana Enterprises, a group that has grown up from strength to strength over a decade. Kethana enclave has various stupendous features such as Recreation Club, Cauvery water connection, gym, children play area and so on.
Kagadasapura - a place is going to be one of a prime location in Bangalore in near future, because it's just 7 kilometers away from Airport, 8 Kilometers from MG road, 9 Kilometers to Marathalli, 6 Kilometers to Halsuru & 2.5 kilometers from Indra Nagar. Also it has got schools (Kendriya Vidhyalaya, National Center for Excellence & Geethanjali), college (SCT), hospitals (24/7, HAL, CMH & Manipal), Temples (Siva, Anjaneya, Bhubaneswar & Saneeswar). Altogether, the place is very good for a peaceful life.
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4th Meeting - MOM
As scheduled we met today (30/10/2007) at 9:30 PM with Basvaraj and also we have got an update from the people who delegated for legal compliance. Lawyer requested for our “completion certificate”, copy of “order” and its reference number it seems. Since we don’t have all those info we couldn’t proceed further on this at this point of time.
Action point: We are going to collect the “reference number”. But we haven’t delegated to anyone for this work. Volunteers welcome?
Apart from the above, we talked about all the other points which we had collected in our first meeting along with B.V.Reddy and got a final confirmation from Basvaraj that “next Saturday” (or) within 3 weeks; he is going to fix all those common issues, but for individual flat issues, the flat owners can directly approach “Basvaraj” right away.
We have got a contact for our “Cauvery Water” issue and we are going to visit the office shortly which is located in Jeevan Beema Nagar. Delegates are yet to be identified for this as well. More over we are planning to meet our neighbor’s association to understand “what they are doing on this issue”
Mr. B.V.Reddy would be coming here by 1st (or) 2nd week of November, so we are going to discuss the following points with him, they are
1) Legal compliance
2) Completion Certificate
3) Car Parking (Only dissatisfied people)
Since this is our final call, so we would request everyone to keep an eye on our issues and get it rectified within 3 weeks.
Tomorrow, again we are going to meet by 9:30 PM, we would request everyone to participate without fail.
Thanks & Regs,
Admin, Kethana Enclave blog.
3rd Meeting -MOM
Today (29/10/2007), we met at 10 PM and discussed about our legal compliance & our pending action item and came to know that we have got an appointment from our lawyer tomorrow by 9 AM (30/10/2007). The following 4 guys are volunteered and they are going to meet our lawyer.
1) Amarjit Dalai
2) Dhureen Babu
3) MuthuKrishnan &
4) Aslam
Once this is done, we are going to meet again tomorrow (30/10/2007) by 10 PM along with Basvaraj.
This is the latest update.
Admin.
2nd Meeting -MOM
As scheduled we met exactly at 9 PM on 14th October 2007 and prioritized our issues and assemble it based upon the severity, they are
1) Legal Compliance.
2) Commencement, completion and possession certificates.
3) Seepages issues & issues with each flats to be fixed.
4) Car Parking to be re-allotted.
5) Forming an association legally.
As a first step we decided to verify the legal complaince with a help of a lawyer. Couple of guys volunteered to do this process, they are
1) Vijay
2) Amar
3) Muthukrishnan.
Updates are yet to arrive from them.
1st Meeting -MOM
First meeting initiated by our builder to hand-over the operations, this was held on October 7th, 2007 at 9 AM and discussed the following points.
1) Cauvery water bill – Owner has to pay 50% and rest would be shared among ourselves - Builder agreed.
2) Builder to install gate valve before the water meter and a person should be dedicated to operate.
3) Completion, possession and commencement Certificates to be given.
4) Water logging in the common areas and open areas between blocks to be fixed
5) Electricity bills to be transferred in individual name
6) Cable ducts to be closed properly
7) Stair case area to be covered by translucent sheet
8) Accounts till date along with all bills & warranty papers of equipments
9) Legal compliance
10)Car parking to be re-allotted.
11)Rectification of seepages issues on all flats.
12)Heavy duty trip & plugs to be installed
13)Road in front of our building to be provided
14)Motors to be covered properly with a door in front
15)Window panel to be cleaned & gym minor equipments issues to be fixed.
Since we haven't got any fruitful solution, we postponed the handover meeting without mentioning a date. Meanwhile we had one more meeting among ourselves and identified few of our residents as our co-ordination Committee (representatives). They are
Krishnakumar (BlockA)
Vijay (BlockA)
Narayanaswamy (BlockA)
John (BlockA)
Raghavan (BlockA)
Deven (BlockA)
Chandrasekar (BlockA)
Aslam (BlockA)
Rajesh (BlockA)
Rajkumar (BlockA)
Karthik (BlockA)
Govindraj (BlockB)
Unnikrishnan (BlockB)
Dharmendra (BlockB)
Sachin (BlockB)
Amarjeet (BlockB)
Mohan (BlockB)
Sushil (BlockB)
We scheduled our next meeting on 14th October 2007 at 9 PM and requested all our co-ordination committee members to participate.